Hayley: Yeah, I thought it was slow moving, I lost interest. Later episodes do pick up in of plot and danger, but the first one was such a slog for me. I was checking how much longer I had to go at 25 minutes in, which is halfway through. I found it really long, but I am so picky about crime shows.
The first one was such a slog for me"
Scott: Is it because we're at saturation?
Hayley: No, we're never going to be at saturation point with crime shows. I love them, but I will just be extra picky about them. I think it's doing amazing things with the deaf community and the BSL community, but I'm not going to go, yes, well done, it’s a must watch. That seems very patronising.
Hayley: I wanted more from this.
Scott: Yeah, I can see what you mean.
Hayley: I mean, you're looking at me like I've personally broken your heart. Did you make the show?
Steffan: I'm enjoying this, I'm kicking back.
Scott: That's my general reaction to you, Hayley, may I just say. No, I mean, I can see where you're coming from. I mean, I had my attention throughout, really. And I didn't find it to explainy to me, but then again, it's me.
Steffan: Well, you're saying you need things explained?
Scott: All the time.
Hayley: This comes down to being Hayley and Scott, I think.
Steffan: But is, do you sort of give them, the makers of this, for trying to do something different.
Hayley: Absolutely. Yeah. Anyone who doesn't do the hungover detective cliche… please do more.
Scott: I also like the fact that it is, I think, having a great sense of realism throughout it, even though the stakes are a bit too ridiculous at the same time. Like, for example, Rose Ayling-Ellis' mum in this drama, she's Deaf. So when it's just them two, they are just purely g between them because what is the point of speaking out loud when the person, your loved one is deaf too?
Scott: I think the way in which it's now becoming much more commonplace of having sign language on screen as just a general point, same in Doctor Who too with Rose Ayling-Ellis’ appearance, makes such a difference to representation in our society.
Scott: I think there is always a balance - I see your point view Hayley as well without making it feel like you're in a lecture. For me, this feels like it hit the right balance, but I can see why it can be perceived that it hasn't.